Sunday, June 26, 2011

Matthew 10:29-31 - Atheism

Scripture Matthew 10:29-31

Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? And not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father's will.

But even the hairs of your head are all numbered.

Fear not, therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.


Who made God?


A follow up question is generally raised which is:

If functional complexity requires a designer how do you account for the functional complexity of the mind of this designer you are compositing?

Basically what was asked is:
Maybe God did create the universe.
Maybe some complex mind created the world but who created that complex mind?

I think that question is irrelevant to our investigation.

It can be answered by an analogy –
We search for life on other planets and lets say we go to Saturn or Jupiter and we discover that there are all kinds of artefacts and monuments.

So we say we conclude there are intelligent beings on this planet they must have done this.

An atheist concludes that is a ridiculous explanation and they raise a follow up question –
Who created those intelligent beings?

And the answer is “who cares!” I don’t know who created the intelligent being.

I am simply trying to prove that the existence of intelligent artefacts and intelligent life shows that there must be intelligent beings that did this.

Who caused them is a matter for a separate investigation.
The fact that we don’t know where the intelligent beings came from is irrelevant.

The fact is we are trying to explain the artefacts and the presence of an intelligent alien is an acceptable explanation of the facts at hand.

We have an experience of artefacts.
Somebody must have made them.
We have no experience of alien intelligent beings.
We don’t know if those intelligent beings could live forever or someone made them at all.

We have no basis for inferring causation about intelligent beings because alien intelligent beings are alien to our experience.

Artefacts are not.

Therefore the first logical move – artefacts leads to alien intelligent beings is valid – the rest of it “there must have been other aliens” is conjecture because that is too remote from our experience for us to say anything about it.

So the bottom line of it is, if we can show an intelligent being – God – created the universe then that is a full and adequate explanation.

We can debate tomorrow if God is self sufficient, do God/gods require a cause themselves, we have no direct experience of that question therefore the logical problem of who created God does not arise. The fact that we don’t know who created the intelligent beings doesn’t mean that the intelligent beings didn’t do that.

Source: D’Souza vs Loftus Debate - Does The Christian God Exist.mp3


Source: Dinesh D’Souza vs Dan Barker – The Great God Debate.mp3


Are You Paying for Atheism?

"Children spend the majority of their waking hours in school. Parents invest a good portion of their life savings in college education and entrust their offspring to people who are supposed to educate them.

Isn’t it wonderful that educators have figured out a way to make parents the instruments of their own undoing?

Isn’t it brilliant that they have persuaded Christian moms and dads to finance the destruction of their own beliefs and values?

Who said atheists aren’t clever?"

Dinesh D'Souza - What's So Great About Christianity

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